The request section has been such a drag, webartzforum have plenty of designers this guy named (Nick) has waited 15 days and still nothing was done.
I've waited 4 so you can please tell me what's going on. Don't give me [we have lives crap] if your life was so busy you wouldn't have time to even visit the site. I bet you guys be online for hours. I know the request section is free but that's a little too long for a guy to wait. Okay it's the holidays we can all see that but what are you doing you are bound to use the computer anyway why can't you just knock that request or requests out the way , then go by what you were originally doing. A good graphic may take a hour to do, I bet you spend more than a hour on facebook.

/ Enough said I think you guys are being pretty mean and lazy.

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I bet more than 50% can do gfx.

Come on Zenith.
The designers do this in their spare time, and as you're saying it is one of the bigger holidays now.
The designers don't get any money for working hours and hours with requests like yours. If you would like to have the images that bad, then you should perhaps offer something.
Don't know why you get upset with how many hours they are online, and that doesn't matter at all, as they have a life besides making graphics to you for free.

/ Enough said I think you guys are being pretty mean and lazy.

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I bet more than 50% can do gfx.

I bet that the other 50% are too lazy to learn doing graphics.

I try and help out that section when I am available. But like what GC said was we do it for free and since its the holidays, people are busy.

Green CoW wrote:I bet that the other 50% are too lazy to learn doing graphics.

Hehehe. I like that one

Zenith wrote:The request section has been such a drag, webartzforum have plenty of designers this guy named (Nick) has waited 15 days and still nothing was done.
I've waited 4 so you can please tell me what's going on. Don't give me n]we have lives crap] if your life was so busy you wouldn't have time to even visit the site. I bet you guys be online for hours. I know the request section is free but that's a little too long for a guy to wait. Okay it's the holidays we can all see that but what are you doing you are bound to use the computer anyway why can't you just knock that request or requests out the way , then go by what you were originally doing. A good graphic may take a hour to do, I bet you spend more than a hour on facebook.

/ Enough said I think you guys are being pretty mean and lazy.

Hey bro people do have lives . They have to earn for living . They cant just entertain requests . You should think about them also . It takes time sometimes but designers complete the requests after they get time as they enjoy GFX .I hope you will understand

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I bet more than 50% can do gfx.

I know more than 50% can do gfx but they also have to look after there own sites thats why they dont get time

Zenith,

I'm sorry that you are not satisfied with the graphic request service. But as everyone above said, it takes tome to make quality graphics. More that 50% members can do graphics but all are not so good as the team members.

The request may take time to complete for some reasons. If it needs some complex work and effects on it, if the member don't provide complete information, the member is not sure what exactly he wants, the member constantly asks to make it better and better, the member expects the "best" creation just for free, if the member ask too much work just in one request...etc.

Please make sure you are away from the above situations

Quoted from graphic request rules thread...

Remember, the graphic staff here are volunteers. They are not paid for their service. The decision depends of them whether to work on your request or not. You can't force them to work on your requests.

I feel "only and lonely" not being "black listed" with the rest of you's lmao. Although no one should wait Weeks without some form of communication/explanation or the requested creation,being rude is not going to speed things up and/or help in the endeavor.
Rather than everyone return shots at the thread and/or its author, how about focusing on a solution in eliminate the waiting process.
Not everyone will be happy all the time,just know in your heart you've done your best.
Have you?

ankillien wrote:Zenith,

I'm sorry that you are not satisfied with the graphic request service. But as everyone above said, it takes tome to make quality graphics. More that 50% members can do graphics but all are not so good as the team members.

The request may take time to complete for some reasons. If it needs some complex work and effects on it, if the member don't provide complete information, the member is not sure what exactly he wants, the member constantly asks to make it better and better, the member expects the "best" creation just for free, if the member ask too much work just in one request...etc.

Please make sure you are away from the above situations

Quoted from graphic request rules thread...

Remember, the graphic staff here are volunteers. They are not paid for their service. The decision depends of them whether to work on your request or not. You can't force them to work on your requests.

But no one has even attempted my request, they have lives but they have enough time be on here don't they.

I bet that the other 50% are too lazy to learn doing graphics.

Haha, that would earn you a +rep if it was enabled XD

Zenith wrote:But no one has even attempted my request, they have lives but they have enough time be on here don't they.

Okay, I see your point there. It may be true that many have the time to be online and possibly take it upon themselves to throw out a five-minute graphic and answer a request. As I said in responding to Nick's request, those icons took about that long and I got it done. I even took the time to explain how that type of icon should be done correctly. So yeah, its definitely possibly that people are "being lazy".

Now look it at through this perspective:

The "people have lives" saying actually bears a lot more weight than you think. You have to consider not just their schedule at work, but their inner conflicts and the reasons why they don't want to take the time to fill a request.

If you look at me, for example, I'm in the military. I'm being deployed in May and I've only just started my career as military police. I'll be kicking down doors, running on convoys with the Army, and wearing a bullet-proof vest, praying to God that I come back without a blood-stained uniform. That's some heavy crap to have on your mind... Am I really going to sit and prepare a bunch of icons for everyone that "needs" them instantly for their totally-awesome website? Heck no, I'm going to be sitting down with a family attorney, writing my will, and focusing on my pre-deployment training so I'm ready for the worst. I'll be talking to family, getting my spiritual life straightened out, and making sure I mend broken relationships and making ends meet.

I may have time to sit and check up on my online memberships frequently during this time, but I'm not going to bother piling more stuff to worry about on an already full platter.

Now consider what others might be going through. Not everyone is military, but others may be going through:

-Divorce
-Death of a loved one
-Studying for exams
-Taxes (usually a big one now that tax season is approaching again)
-Their spiritual life
-Illness or pain

The list goes on...

If you're that desperate to have a graphic made, then do what I normally do for the heck of it and duplicate the request on different sites like WebArtz. That way, you can get in touch with an entire network of graphic designers rather than rely one website. Its common sense, if I do say so myself.

RecAgenda wrote:

Zenith wrote:But no one has even attempted my request, they have lives but they have enough time be on here don't they.

Okay, I see your point there. It may be true that many have the time to be online and possibly take it upon themselves to throw out a five-minute graphic and answer a request. As I said in responding to Nick's request, those icons took about that long and I got it done. I even took the time to explain how that type of icon should be done correctly. So yeah, its definitely possibly that people are "being lazy".

Now look it at through this perspective:

The "people have lives" saying actually bears a lot more weight than you think. You have to consider not just their schedule at work, but their inner conflicts and the reasons why they don't want to take the time to fill a request.

If you look at me, for example, I'm in the military. I'm being deployed in May and I've only just started my career as military police. I'll be kicking down doors, running on convoys with the Army, and wearing a bullet-proof vest, praying to God that I come back without a blood-stained uniform. That's some heavy crap to have on your mind... Am I really going to sit and prepare a bunch of icons for everyone that "needs" them instantly for their totally-awesome website? Heck no, I'm going to be sitting down with a family attorney, writing my will, and focusing on my pre-deployment training so I'm ready for the worst. I'll be talking to family, getting my spiritual life straightened out, and making sure I mend broken relationships and making ends meet.

I may have time to sit and check up on my online memberships frequently during this time, but I'm not going to bother piling more stuff to worry about on an already full platter.

Now consider what others might be going through. Not everyone is military, but others may be going through:

-Divorce
-Death of a loved one
-Studying for exams
-Taxes (usually a big one now that tax season is approaching again)
-Their spiritual life
-Illness or pain

The list goes on...

If you're that desperate to have a graphic made, then do what I normally do for the heck of it and duplicate the request on different sites like WebArtz. That way, you can get in touch with an entire network of graphic designers rather than rely one website. Its common sense, if I do say so myself.

That's very touching. I hope you come back safely.

*ON TOPIC*

I have to agree with the fact that designers aren't doing much work. Emilio is the only one doing any requests. But they do have a life and I also agree with everything RecAgenda said.

I see this is a important topic , Zenith i know it takes (maybe to long)...
But what i do is "volunteer work" , i don't get paid to do my job here on webartz.
I just help webartz out , i'm just a 16 year old kid who loves to design . so i give people what they need , i also don't gonna put quality in request. The thing is , this is volunteer work so , it will take time. If you want something really quick , go to other designers...
But i bet they will ask money. Be happy we take request...


I guess i'll clear the Request section up

This is an interesting topic.

I get all sorts of requests for HTML/CSS/JS help from forumotion members and from members of the other free forum sites where I'm active. I'd like to help everyone, but there aren't enough hours in the day! So I prioritize. Paying jobs always come first, period, end of story. Then I'll help people whose questions/problems give me the best opportunity to advertise my skills. Then come the hard questions that no one else has been able to answer, which I suppose is a different form of advertising. And then everything else. That means most of the time, I don't respond even though I know the answer to the question that was asked.

But I'd like to change that. So I'm putting together a board here on forumotion that will contain javascript tutorials as well as more in-depth discussion than is possible on general-info boards such as this one. I'm not going to announce it (against rules, you know ), so you'll need to find it on your own.

So back to the topic. Zenith, instead of complaining, be happy that someone was kind enough to offer to help you. And if that isn't enough, well, ask yourself if you would help someone that has said the things you've said in this topic...

I guess he will understand now

So true...

dion wrote:Zenith, instead of complaining, be happy that someone was kind enough to offer to help you. And if that isn't enough, well, ask yourself if you would help someone that has said the things you've said in this topic...

Zenith,

I also know that people spend hours on Facebook and playing online games etc...but it does not mean that they should stop having fun and start working on your requests. Our designers are volunteer so neither I nor you can FORCE them to work on requests unless they are paid.

I advice you to change your thinking. You should think like if someone makes graphics for you, its fine....and if no one is working on your request, no problem, you may request it on another site or try it yourself or wait until someone comes and says "I'm doing it'

But I'll take this seriously and try to improve the graphic request service as much as possible

I think he understood now

I agree with all of you guys,i know it was a holidays period and i know everyone here has a life.I dont think the request was really hard but thanks very much to the one who tried (Agenda ).You should be happy that you can ask for graphics for free and some people are kind enough to offer their spare time making graphics that you ask instead of playing call of duty(Or anything else) or studying etc etc etc.The graphic designers here(or the other memebers) are just some people that have a real life and spare their time doing what they love to do,graphics.If you dont want to wait,pay a graphic designer near your city to make these for you.Complaining doesnt help at all,you make them furious and its possible that they wont handle your requests(maybe).

*Offtopic*
In the forumotion support forum,a year ago there were many members and graphic designers that were happy and kind enough to handle the unlimited requests of every user.However now most people there(and graphic designers) dont do anything,just garbage,lock threads and warn members that double post requesting their graphics.As dion stated in the support forum it is really rude to do that when you are a graphic designer(chosen by the admins) and are bored to do anything,instad of having fun locking threads and warning members.And i got banned by these "brave" graphic designers.(great job forumotion,be proud.)I know everyone there(mods,graphic designers) are FORCED to have that type of behaviour,thats why they always think they are "the best".

The graphic design section has been re-opened with new graphics team.

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