I have been pondering about this question for quite a few years.
What are your views on war going on against terrorists in afghanistan etc? Or rather a war in general between any two countries? What are your views on this?

Myself, I am against any war, it is not the solution. Afghanistan will never become a democratic country. Same for Iraq.

I don't know what can stop terrorism but was is not the solution at all

I would say that the corrupted religion (doesn't matter which one) is all the evil that lies behind almost every war that been started.

Green CoW wrote:I would say that the corrupted religion (doesn't matter which one) is all the evil that lies behind almost every war that been started.

GC, its in the name of the religion. The people who have started the war are maniacs who brainwash the people based on religion.
They use religion as their tool, to show how people from their religion are being oppressed & treated.

Sanket wrote:
GC, its in the name of the religion. The people who have started the war are maniacs who brainwash the people based on religion.
They use religion as their tool, to show how people from their religion are being oppressed & treated.

Well of course it's always the people that start the wars as the religion nor weapons can start a war itself.
And yes they use the religion as a main tool, that's why I think it would be better without religion.



btw... what have happened with the quote boxes?

There are technical issues on forumotion which has messed up the quote boxes.

no, War is never the answer/solution. There's so many other ways to "settle" and talk things out.

WAR is just meaningless, it kills innocents!

Muslims Are Not The terrorists...

Islam Is A Religion Of Peace...

I'm a Muslim , My name Iz Farhan, & I'm Not A terrorist.
Proud 2 Be a Pakistani

The 7th (Latest) Atomic Power Country Of The World
And The Only Nuclear Power Islamic Country amounge 55 In This World...

We r Not The terrorists

War is never the solution. Why are there war?

To prove who is best? Prove who has the most advanced weapons?

I think war is pathetic. World peace is what we need.

If I report myself to the military, and end up being sent to Afghanistan, I will fight for peace

Fellon wrote:War is never the solution. Why are there war?

To prove who is best? Prove who has the most advanced weapons?

I think war is pathetic. World peace is what we need.

If I report myself to the military, and end up being sent to Afghanistan, I will fight for peace

Do You Know That the war In Afghanistan Ang Iraq Is Just 4 The Oil???

They want To Prove Them the Super power, killing innocent people...

And What Is Doing Israel In Ghaza??? this Is The Real terrorism

Ghaza bombs Israel, Israel bombs back. Pathetic :/

Fellon wrote:Ghaza bombs Israel, Israel bombs back. Pathetic :/

lol...

Ghaza Has no any bombs In Their Defence Power... Read And research Their history In a Clear way... U'll know The Truth of Islam And Muslims... They Are innocent people

Sucide bombers Are Not muslims, They are Acting as Muslims To Put Bad Impression Of Islam At The World... They are Enemies Of Islam ...

Captain wrote:Muslims Are Not The terrorists...

Islam Is A Religion Of Peace...

I'm a Muslim , My name Iz Farhan, & I'm Not A terrorist.
Proud 2 Be a Pakistani

The 7th (Latest) Atomic Power Country Of The World
And The Only Nuclear Power Islamic Country amounge 55 In This World...

We r Not The terrorists

Okay seriously , how in the world did "Religion" Just popped up all of a sudden>?
And umm sorry to dis-appoint you Caption , but loads of the terrorists which were caught were from Pakistan , Afganistan and so. , And I'm pretty sure all of them were muslims , No offense inteded , I'm just trying to prove a point. I somewhere read this on a group which was at facebook saying , well it was sort of parody but yeah it was something like this
"All muslims are not terrorists , BUT All terrorists are muslims" , And again NO OFFENSE INTENDED , Imma no racist >.> , Just read it at a facebook group.
And to be on the topic, Well , yeah , Only one , or two people thinking war is not the solution ain't enough for peace all over the world , is it?
And besides , people just say it when it comes to peace like " yeah We shouldn't do it" , When they normally don't think so , Peace lies within , until that peace is lightened up to give peace to the whole body , This world can NEVER attain peace.
(No I don't mean that Peace can't happen , I wanna say is , unless the evil is destroyed from inside , It can't happen.)

Fred100 wrote:

Captain wrote:Muslims Are Not The terrorists...

Islam Is A Religion Of Peace...

I'm a Muslim , My name Iz Farhan, & I'm Not A terrorist.
Proud 2 Be a Pakistani

The 7th (Latest) Atomic Power Country Of The World
And The Only Nuclear Power Islamic Country amounge 55 In This World...

We r Not The terrorists

Okay seriously , how in the world did "Religion" Just popped up all of a sudden>?
And umm sorry to dis-appoint you Caption , but loads of the terrorists which were caught were from Pakistan , Afganistan and so. , And I'm pretty sure all of them were muslims , No offense inteded , I'm just trying to prove a point. I somewhere read this on a group which was at facebook saying , well it was sort of parody but yeah it was something like this
"All muslims are not terrorists , BUT All terrorists are muslims" , And again NO OFFENSE INTENDED , Imma no racist >.> , Just read it at a facebook group.
And to be on the topic, Well , yeah , Only one , or two people thinking war is not the solution ain't enough for peace all over the world , is it?
And besides , people just say it when it comes to peace like " yeah We shouldn't do it" , When they normally don't think so , Peace lies within , until that peace is lightened up to give peace to the whole body , This world can NEVER attain peace.
(No I don't mean that Peace can't happen , I wanna say is , unless the evil is destroyed from inside , It can't happen.)

Did u read In Their Eyes That, they Are Muslims or Pakistani's As Well????

a person who iz Philpino, says , he Is The sweden, will u Believe???
no, because They have totally Different Physical appearence...

Similarly, U cant calculate a Person Saying He Iz Muslim, How dare anybody believes on It??? It iz all about our thinking, We must Clear Our minds, Then There will be No need Of war

Umm didn't I said the same thing that peace lies within?
And Umm People from Philippines are known as Filipino people , Umm wait , or is that just the language? Oh well nvm ,
And why'd any filipino guy say that he's Sweden?
I don't go around and say I'm America , do I? Lol , that's sorta hilarious , but I heard that "Taliban" Actually captures the pakistanis who are poor and pay them to suicide bomb themselves , I Saw that on T.V.
And if you ask me , I feel like you're regretting the fact that suicide bombers are coming from pakistan , everyone knows that a average pakistani won't be a terrorist , that's obvious.

Oh, What a thought u have,,,
If I Give u The Whole Property Of Bill gates.. In Return of Which U Must Give Your Life, U Have To Sacrifise, U Will Be Dead,,??? Will U???

Life can't Be Measured By Money, If So, That India Has Many Slums, poor people, As Compared To Pakistan And Even all over The World..

they Are All The terrorists Of the Future????

Sorry never Mind,, This Is Just an Example I'm Not personaly atacking anybody.

Guys,

Looks like we are going off topic? Why are we talking about terrorism and religions in "Do you believe in war" thread?

ankillien wrote:Guys,

Looks like we are going off topic? Why are we talking about terrorism and religions in "Do you believe in war" thread?

Yes Sir...

Exactly U R Right, but We Want To Prove That, Is There Any NeedOf war or Not???

Lol, But The War is Going on... In The Form Of Drone Attacks

Okay seriously , Even I know that there are slums in india, you just pointed it out because of the movie "Slumdog" Geez , it's not as if slums are all over the india , ONLY some cities where people from villages migrate to.
And how in the world did bill gate's money came in between?
And why in the world would I kill myself for that money? , where am I gonna use it if I die? >.>
For ex- Amir Kasab , Bet you'd know about the guy?
His own father confessed that he had to let him suicide bomb himself because his father was being paid for it , where as , kasab was brain washed , as Sanket mentioned before , people ARE brain washed to do that stuff , Who'd do all that in normal sight?
And I am NOT trying to create a havoc or offense because I'm scared people will print out my avatar and then burn it and wish for me to die later.
>.> *rolls eye at captain*
No seriously , I have NO personal intention to create a offense , I'm just countering the statement.'
And as I said before , peace lies within , everyone needs to find the peace within them to make a peaceful world , Not by pointing fingers at each other and forwarding the blame.

Way off topic :/

So true , attaining peace in order to evade war is surely off topic...

Captain since you raised the topic of Muslims being deemed as Terrorists.
Well, its not Muslims. Rather people who in the name of religion have oppressed uneducated people from lower classes & trained them to be terrorists. After, the World Trade Center attacks, life has changed completely throughout the world. I am not saying that in the sense directly related to the war going on in the gulf. Rather people's viewpoint about muslims, they rather want to be safe & hence have extra checks for flights coming from gulf countries for example. There are million such examples, but going through these extra checks make some muslims feel they are being ill treated & hence the rage about it. This hatred has reached worldwide now.

Even India has Maoists who fight for the underdeveloped states. But, picking up arms is not the way to prove your point. Somehow, earlier i used to think Gandhi's ways of nonviolence would not work in today's times. But, if we want peace we need to follow his way. Otherwise, we will soon see a World War 3. At this point of time, these Maoists are unhappy about our governments way of providing them the basic needs. True, but they have not yet reached a point where they attack some other country or anything of that sort. Still, we consider Maoists as a major internal thread more than the external terrorism threat.

I just feel, Muslims should not feel that they are being oppressed by the west or anyone else. Its the bad people in your community who have brought your community to shame. You are the ones, who can bring about a change by educating your future generations & not instill hatred in them about your community being ill treated.

Nice Sanket...

These Are All Man Made Problems For Pakistan & india...

in 1947 when British Go From Here... They Started To War Btween Pakistan & India.In Order To Put aways Backward From the World, They Succeded.

now a Days, We Are Enemies, Even we Have Same culture, Same Physical Appearance, Same economic Power, Same Defence power,..
70% Of defence Budget Of Both countries Are Spending On Kargil & Siachin war...

If there iz No war, this Money Iz much For avoide our economical problems.

Are U agreed sanket???

British didn't do anything to have separate States of India & Pakistan.

It was due to Jinnah a new state of Pakistan was formed. He was in the Indian National Congress, wherein he proposed a two nation theory due to his thinking. At that point of time, Muslims throughout were given the option to either go to Pakistan or rather stay in India.

We are enemies, probably. I guess every bordering nation has some issues.

We have a far better economic power. Culture, well i don't think i want to comment on that. Physical Locations, i am not really aware of how pakistan is. Defence power, probably similar.

Yes we are spending a lot on war. But thats due to the instability caused in the bordering areas due to terrorism & other factors.

If there iz No war, this Money Iz much For avoide our economical problems.

Well, thats true. But, this is never going to happen. India can never trust pakistan. The military presence in kashmir will always be there. There is no question in my mind that this will ever change but definitely over a period of years this trust can be tried to be built upon & the military presence can reduce considerably.