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1HTML Alone Empty HTML Alone Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:11 pm

David


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You will come to notice that all successful sites integrate CSS into their coding, but have you seen a "good-looking" site which has only been coded in HTML? Can you code a good looking site in HTML?

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2HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:20 pm

Sanket

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I doubt that.

have you seen any?

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3HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:22 pm

David


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Nope, although I would assume a lot of tables would be used.

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4HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:23 pm

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Yes, i don't think there is any good looking site with only html.

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5HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:43 pm

ankillien

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I haven't seen any good looking site with HTML only but I think it can be made.
I used to make full HTML templates when I didn't know about CSS.
Of course, the pages can't look as good as CSS based ones.

6HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:18 pm

Is Stranger


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i do not think this could be made because there would be no positioning, background, and such.

7HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:13 am

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I think it could be done.
But it would take a minimum a month of getting one site.

8HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:15 am

ankillien

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MrMega wrote:I think it could be done.
But it would take a minimum a month of getting one site.

Oh! I don't think it can take that long.
Making a site template can not take more than a week.

9HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:12 am

karna

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I think we can make a good looking site with HTML only though not as cool as CSS powered sites Razz

10HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:12 pm

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David wrote:You will come to notice that all successful sites integrate CSS into their coding, but have you seen a "good-looking" site which has only been coded in HTML? Can you code a good looking site in HTML?
How are you defining "good looking site?"?

I've done sites only in HTML, obviously using tables, and I reckon they're okay - but then I would be biased lol. I guess it depends on your definition of a good looking site.

11HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:02 pm

ankillien

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Good looking site means comparatively better looking site Razz

If you use only HTML, you can make a site with tables but the table layout can not be so flexible and attractive as CSS layout.

We can make a 'better' site with use of CSS as we get advantage of some properties like backgrounds, floats, positions and lot other.

12HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:50 am

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Okay. I get what you're saying, but can you give me an example of a good loooking site that employs CSS and a site that's 'not good loking' but only uses tables?

Btw I created my very first site many years ago just using windows notepad and I consider it good looking lol.

13HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:52 am

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It doesn't mean that only HTML sites are not good looking Smile

What I want to say is by using CSS you can make a much better site since CSS has features that HTML doesn't have, though you can, of course, have a good looking site with HTML only .

Get my point?

14HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:07 am

karna

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ankillien wrote:It doesn't mean that only HTML sites are not good looking Smile

What I want to say is by using CSS you can make a much better site since CSS has features that HTML doesn't have, though you can, of course, have a good looking site with HTML only .

Get my point?

I agree with this What a Face

15HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:07 pm

SophieDophs

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ankillien wrote:It doesn't mean that only HTML sites are not good looking Smile

What I want to say is by using CSS you can make a much better site since CSS has features that HTML doesn't have, though you can, of course, have a good looking site with HTML only .

Get my point?
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but it would have been nice to see an example(s). No problem.

16HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:19 pm

ankillien

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The best example is Forumotion Razz
See the difference between phpBB2 and phpBB3.

Though BB2 is not only HTML based layout, it uses table method layout which uses more of HTML than CSS. And see the BB3 layout which is completely based on CSS including all the columns and cells Very Happy

Which one of them looks more attractive? Surely, the BB3 layout, right? Because is has nice gradient backgrounds, rounded corners and better margins and padding which make the layout more flexible.

You can try removing all CSS codes from a BB2 layout and see the page. It looks ugly because it was the CSS that made it look 'more' attractive.

17HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:52 pm

SophieDophs

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Ah I see. Mind you, it depends on which BB3... I've seen some pretty naff BB3 sites.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to give up HTML tables... it's so much quicker than messing around with a CSS alternative, I imagine.

18HTML Alone Empty Re: HTML Alone Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:51 pm

ankillien

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The look of a site depends on skills of the designer not on HTML or CSS.

Without using CSS, you can't add nice backgrounds to a site, you can't add beautiful rounded corners to a site, you can't add cool looking gradient graphics to a site.

However, its true that making a layout with CSS is very difficult while with HTML you can do it quickly. Only HTML based sites are never bad looking.

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